Sunday, 1 September 2019

For The critics!!



Time and again I keep getting weird comments from people asking ‘proof’ of the trades that I share. Few of them asking contract notes, others live trades and few asking P&L. Going through their profile I found them to be in one of the following categories:


  1. Failed traders: who keep switching between strategies. They have basic understanding of the trading concepts, but have never been able to stick to one strategy and adopt it and adapt to it. And what more, they refuse to look inwards. It is rightly said “The most difficult journey you would ever traverse is the journey inside”. They just refuse to do it. 
  2. New to DP system: who just started looking at markets from DP trading perspective and want to reap in profits. Going through the resource book over a weekend and trading it with huge capital. However simple DP trading might look, it is not easy at all. Infact, more difficult than most strategies, as high level of discretion is involved.
  3. Few twitter ‘star’ traders: Not everyone but few of the self-proclaimed stars who think themselves to be an authority. They believe that they know it all, and everyone else is cheating; and people should give them money to let them save you from others by teaching via webinars or workshops. I have seen few genuinely good traders here. The more you know more humble, welcoming and open you become as a trader. These guys are still far away.
  4. People who are too gullible and looking for intraday tips only: they ask for live trades, absence of it makes them convinced that some fraud is going on here. 
  5.  People who have never studied DP system, leave aside trading or learning: For them everything posted here is crap. Show them live trades and contract notes, then they might think of learning this strategy.

Most of these people think that the onus of proving the efficacy of the system, developing conviction in them about DP trading is on me…how idiotic is that thought process in itself. My apologies, I am not selling here anything that I need to show demo or trials. Merely, sharing a trading strategy, because that’s how I received it. These people do not want to work on their trading skills and trading psychology, it takes a lot more effort than raising questions.

I understand retail trading space is full with scamsters who want to make money by training other traders and selling tips only when they have been a failure themselves. Do not fall for such schemes and people. A good trader can simply increase his lot size to earn more money, rather than selling webinars and workshops.

Also I hate putting in this manner, but...everyone's time and energy comes at a cost. I am sharing and discussing nuances of DP trading for free because I received it that way, "With great power comes great responsibilities". I have got nothing to prove to anyone, the onus of learning lies on you. You have a choice to learn a method for life or to question and expect me to show proofs.


The focus of this twitter handle is on the ‘process’ of DP trading only and it will remain so. Profits are a function of one’s knowledge and risk management.

To re-iterate myself:


1.       I have no intentions nor any need to ‘prove’ myself to anyone.

2.       A method of trading that is working for me is shared here; it may or not work for you.

3.       However simple it may look, trading is not easy.

Took me number of years to get profitable. For you it might happen sooner or later, depending on your learning curve. But the horizon here is in number of years (interested people can read ’10,000 hour rule’ by Malcolm Gladwell in his book Outliers).

4.       If you think DP system or trades posted here are ‘fraud’, my request is save yourself from the fraud and stay away. I don’t like blocking people but don’t want unnecessary noise on my twitter handle too.

5.       Your conviction in a particular strategy has nothing to do with my trade book, my P&L or my contract note…it is something that you develop by learning and practicing.

6.       “Show me live trades or you are a fraud” ….No live trading calls here. I am too busy and engrossed during the market hours to post live trades on twitter to ‘prove’ myself. What I take home everyday from market matters, not what some random guy in the twitter universe thinks about me. And my live trading will not improve you as a trader, but will be counter-productive only.

7.       If you think my charts based on DP method is contributing even little to your trading journey, keep visiting, else go around there are infinite number of strategies floating around. Find the one that suits your trading style.

8.       I have been able to get these results with small lot sizes, with bigger lot sizes obviously the results will vary.


 Happy Trading!!!

Friday, 23 August 2019

List of Important Tweets

Time and again I keep answering the queries of fellow traders. To avoid duplication of efforts, here is the list of relevant tweets. One may go through them first to get better understanding of the DP trading.

1. Abbreviations used on the charts
https://twitter.com/ForNifty/status/1096338381271941121

2. Getting started with DP trading
https://twitter.com/ForNifty/status/1158443765364690944

3. Master Candle
https://twitter.com/ForNifty/status/1099207106144526337

4. How Stop Loss is moved
https://twitter.com/ForNifty/status/1103329305109647362

https://twitter.com/ForNifty/status/1104301294150402048

5. Is DP method applicable on Stocks
https://twitter.com/ForNifty/status/1103547945117515776

https://twitter.com/ForNifty/status/1125459838530572288

6. How DPs are marked (without Tails)

https://twitter.com/ForNifty/status/1104303516213039104

7. Why I trade in Futures and not Options

https://twitter.com/ForNifty/status/1105763541041205248

https://twitter.com/ForNifty/status/1105767423196712961

8. Re-starting the trade (getting back on trade after series of losses)

https://twitter.com/ForNifty/status/1105780776581386240

9. Why I prefer Nifty over BankNifty

https://twitter.com/ForNifty/status/1108087759112146944

10. How do I usually execute trades using Bid-ask spread

https://twitter.com/ForNifty/status/1115873925123190786

11. Exit Strategy

https://twitter.com/ForNifty/status/1123875616560959488

https://twitter.com/ForNifty/status/1158437421798658050

https://twitter.com/ForNifty/status/1158437956589244417

12. Posting Live Calls/MTMs/Ledger on the twitter handle

https://twitter.com/ForNifty/status/1123878259140255745

https://twitter.com/ForNifty/status/1124225157302644738

https://twitter.com/ForNifty/status/1124257136282746880

https://twitter.com/ForNifty/status/1129323348998025216

13. Important Books/Resources

https://twitter.com/ForNifty/status/1128701408922914817

14. Identifying Trend Days

https://twitter.com/ForNifty/status/1140681442147672066

15. Identifying Ranges

https://twitter.com/ForNifty/status/1160114559354490880

https://twitter.com/ForNifty/status/1160114630535962625

16. Initial Range

http://niftynirvana.blogspot.com/2012/07/initial-range.html

Decision Point Trading (DP Trading)

Decision Point Trading (DP Trading) is a trading method in which our trading decisions are based on the price behavior around certain decision points. These decision points are created by the market structure itself or prior day’s important price levels. Price is the ultimate truth. The basic premise of DP trading is that price is always in ranges; even when price is trending, it is seen as moving from one range to another.

DPs that we consider for our trading are:

  • BRN (Big Round Numbers): Price points like 10100, 10200, …11300, 11500 and so on
  • PDC: Previous Day Close
  • PDL: Previous Day Low
  • PDH: Previous Day High
  • IRH: Initial Range High
  • IRL: Initial Range Low
  • Range Highs
  • Range Lows

At these decision points we try to look at the price behavior and based on it we make our trading
decisions. Price can act in the following manner at DPs:

a) Breakout Failure (BoF): Price breaks out the decision point (range extreme) and falls back to the
earlier range
b) Breakout PullBack (BPB): Price breaks out the decision point(range extreme), reverses, and
continues in the direction of breakout
c) Direct Breakout (BO): Price breaks out the decision point (range extreme) and continue moving
in the direction of the breakout

The above three are the basic price patterns, several variations of them have been observed and
practiced, like TST (Test of S/R, Complex Pullback, Failure of BoF etc.

This method was introduced by Nifty Nirvana aka SmartTrader aka Niranjanam aka Rajesh through his blog, niftynirvana.blogspot.com. All credit to him for developing this wonderful methodology and make it publicly available. Development of DP method of trading is inspired from Lance Beggs (Your Trading Coach).

The resource booklets can be downloaded from the following link:
http://niftynirvana.blogspot.com/2013/12/download-e-book.html

Daily my analysis and trades based on DP method of trading are posted on twitter handle 'ForNifty' (https://twitter.com/ForNifty